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Listening to John John Florence and Pyzel Talk About Surfboards For Half-an-Hour Will Teach You A LOT

John John Florence and Jon Pyzel have a very special surfer/shaper relationship. Let them teach you about surfboards.

John John Florence and Jon Pyzel have some serious history. They’ve been working together for 22 years. When John John was just five years old, Pyzel shaped him his first surfboard. Since then, of course, a lot has changed. John John is widely considered to be the best surfer in the world. He’s a world champion.

It could be said that, aside from John John himself, there is no one who knows John John’s surfing better than Pyzel. Two boards stand out in a considerable quiver: the Shadow and Ghost. The half-hour conversation about board design you see above will teach you a whole lot about surfboards.